| Nov 01 2002 03:39:11 |
David Evans
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Possible faint Kreutz comet in recent C2 images
2002/10/31
1024x1024 0,0 Top-Left
4 positions available
19:50 745, 1008
20:06 734, 994
20:26 721, 977
20:50 705, 956
- Dave |
Nov 01 2002 04:06:02 |
David Evans
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UPDATE to Possible faint Kreutz (Re: Nov 01 2002 03:39:11)
1024x1024 0,0 Top Left
The object appears real and seems to have a second component
situated at +3, +3
- Dave
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Nov 01 2002 04:56:15 |
Maik Meyer
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I can see nothing cometary at the indicated positions. Not even
a first "component". In the last postions I see absolutely
nothing.
Maik |
Nov 01 2002 05:18:22 |
David Evans
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Sorry, I have to disagree with you on this one Maik.
Although the object is one of the faintest possible Kreutz I
have seen, I have checked the report again and it still looks
good to me...
- Dave |
Nov 01 2002 05:33:52 |
Sebastian Hönig
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Dave,
also nothing visible from my side - no confirmation.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 01 2002 08:28:48 |
Rainer Kracht
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possible comet in C3 images
b/w 512*512 from the LASCO website
enlarged to 1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021101 0842 854 920
20021101 0918 848 916
20021101 1042 836 906
Rainer
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Nov 01 2002 09:22:24 |
Rainer Kracht
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UPDATE possible comet in C3 images
Before I posted the claim I had checked the latest
three 1024*1024 images and found it in all three
images including the missing 0942 image:
1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021101 0918 848 916
20021101 0942 845 913
20021101 1042 837 906
So it seemed to be real...
But there is nothing visible in the 0842 image (1024*1024)!
(sorry, could be noise)
Rainer
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Nov 01 2002 10:41:59 |
John Sachs
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Possible Kreutz comet C3
0,0 Top Left x and y Coordinates
C3 1024x1024 Images x and y Coordinates
20021101 1118 C3 839 873
20021101 1042 C3 843 879
20021101 0942 C3 854 890
20021031 0918 C3 860 895
20021031 0842 C3 866 903
John |
Nov 01 2002 10:56:42 |
Frederick Felt
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Dear Sirs;
There is a comet seen in many frames of Image 4 (and 5)
in the article "Sun Puts on a Show for Fall", in the 01 November
2002 GSFC Website. The comet enters the field of view around time
09:18 on 2002/10/27, at about -60 degrees (lower right quadrant),
and falls into the sun, last seen at 23:42.
Can I name this comet? >smile<
Many regards,
Frederick
Frederick Felt
NASA GSFC Failure Analysis Laboratory
Building 22, C031
(301) 286-9634
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Nov 01 2002 12:42:51 |
John Sachs
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Derek:
I retract my post of
Nov 01 2002 10:41:59
Below.Appears it was Noise.
John |
Nov 01 2002 15:25:43 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
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Nov 01 2002 22:21:59
xxx@xxx
Possible Kreutz comet C3
0,0 Top Left x and y Coordinates
C3 1024x1024 Images x and y Coordinates
20021101 1542 C3 874 900
20021101 1618 C3 877 902
20021101 1642 C3 862 901
20021031 1718 C3 860 900
Sergey Shurpakov |
Nov 01 2002 15:31:25 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
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Nov 01 2002 22:21:59
Mistaken in date marks in message below
x y
20021101 Ñ3 17:18 860 900
Sergey Shurpakov
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Nov 01 2002 15:34:04 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
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Nov 01 2002 22:21:59
xxx@xxx
Possible Kreutz comet C3
0,0 Top Left x and y Coordinates
C3 1024x1024 Images x and y Coordinates
20021101 1542 C3 874 900
20021101 1618 C3 877 902
20021101 1642 C3 862 901
20021101 1718 C3 860 900
Sergey Shurpakov
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Nov 01 2002 16:12:44 |
Derek Hammer
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Sergey, this is definitely not a comet. If you look at your
positions, you claim the object moves in +x direction, then
turns back in the -x direction in the time span of one hour.
Comets will not exhibit such movement. The comets that SOHO
observes will have velocities that that do not change
significantly on the time scale of hours (i.e. the pixels/hr in
both the x and y direction will be fairly consistent on the
time-scale of hours. And typically the velocity remains
consistent throughout all observations). Also, under "Found
Something?" entitled 'Where should I look in the images to find
comets?', you will find the paths where over 95% of the comets we
discover are located. I suggest that, as a newbie, you
concentrate on Kreutz comets because they are the "easiest" to
find. You will only find comets when you know where they are,
what they look like and how they move. Familiarize yourself with
the typical appearance and movement of SOHO comets by trying to
find past comets. And please be patient. It takes
people weeks or months to find their first comet so be skeptical
of the objects you think could be comets. Ask yourself, is the
movement and appearance consisent? Thanks and good luck.
To everyone, I am trying to sift through all the recent claims
so please be patient, it could take a long time...years!
Derek |
Nov 01 2002 17:09:04 |
CIRO FUSCO
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A possible sungrazer comet in c2
1024*1024
20021101
time x,y
20:26 649,747
20:50 632,732
by Ciro |
Nov 01 2002 18:12:33 |
John Sachs
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What is this bright object coming
into fov at c3 ?
Possible Kreutz comet C3
0,0 Top Left x and y Coordinates
C3 1024x1024 Images x and y Coordinates
20021101 2140 C3 1020 463
John
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Nov 01 2002 18:38:20 |
John Sachs
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Object I reported below
Nov 01 2002 18:12:33 may
be the planet Mercury in transit.
John |
Nov 01 2002 20:58:05 |
Kiyoto Shibasaki
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I found a comet which fell into the Sun. I looked into the list
of Sungrazers on 2002 and could not find the one which I found.
Telescope: C2
Date: 2002/10/28
Times: 04:06 - 07:50 (11 images)
Position: South West quadrant (along a extended streamer)
Shape: a small bright head (toward the Sun) and a short tail
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Nov 01 2002 23:35:53 |
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Nov 02 2002 16:09:57 |
David Evans
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Hi Kiyoto
The sungrazer in your report is actually the same comet found by
Rainer Kracht on Oct 26 2002 17:44:39.
This comet first became visible in the C3 images and later
entered the C2 field of view on Oct 28 2002 04:06.
Bright C2 objects of this nature are usually always discovered
first in the C3 images - perhaps up to 35hours before.
So when checking to see if a bright C2 comet has previously been
found, it is always a good idea to first check the reports of C3 discoveries for the previous two days.
Hope this helps...
- Dave |
Nov 02 2002 21:21:04 |
Rob Matson
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2002 Nov 3 -- Dim Kreutz comet in real-time C2 images
enters at 00:30. 1024x1024 coordinates (0,0 in upper
left corner):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-03 00:30 730 1018
00:54 713 997
01:31 688 964
01:54 672 944 (expanded from 512x512)
--Rob |
Nov 03 2002 18:24:29 |
michael boschat
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Object in C2 @ 20021103_1806 UT
512 pixel size images used. 0,476 lower left.
My XY's may be off a bit.
UT image XY
1806 401, 472
1830 393, 467
1854 390, 461
Object is faint.
Mike Boschat |
Nov 03 2002 21:28:46 |
mike boschat
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Disregard my posts of:
Nov 03 2002 18:24:29 and
Oct 31 2002 11:31:14
cannot follow up on them...
sorry Derek...
Mike B. |
Nov 03 2002 21:39:07 |
Derek Hammer
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Hello, here are the recent confirmations.
SOHO# Reporter Date Camera
-------------------------------------
533 S. Hoenig 02/10/22 C2
534 R. Kracht 02/10/26-28 C2,C3
535 R. Kracht 02/10/28 C2
536 R. Matson 02/10/30 C2
537 X. Leprette 02/10/31 C2
538 S. Hoenig 02/10/31 C2
I am still reviewing Rob's claim on Nov 2.
Just a reminder for some of the "experienced" people. I require 4
positions unless the object is obvious...NOT DIM or FAINT. I
understand if an occasional false report occurs. But some people
submitted a handful of <4 position reports (in just 1 week) and all were
false! Since I have mentioned the "obvious rule" maybe a few
thousand times already, the only explanation is that you do not
care. Thanks alot.
For the new people, and I see there are quite a few, please do not
report a comet with fewer than 4 positions until you gain some
experience. After all, you really don't know what "obvious" means
yet. And do not worry about your previous false posts, it is
understood that it happens to everyone in the beginning. I just
ask that you make improvements as time progresses.
Email me if you would like to know why your claim was rejected.
Derek |
Nov 04 2002 02:54:59 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Possible non Kreutz comet in C2
positions 1024x1024 0,0 top-left
20021104
2324 533,1005
0025 545,969
0054 551,950
0131 560,912
Small object moving toward the sun.
Regards,
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 04 2002 03:20:08 |
Rob Matson
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Hi Toni,
Regarding your possible non-group post, the pixel
velocities are:
2324 533,1005
0025 545,969 +12, -36 --> .20, -.59
0054 551,950 +6, -19 --> .21, -.66
0131 560,912 +9, -38 --> .24, -1.03
Unfortunately, the last point is not consistent with the
first three, and nothing compelling is located where you'd
expect the 4th point to be.
Cheers,
Rob
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Nov 04 2002 03:57:56 |
Scarmato Toni
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Thanks Rob.
Really the last point appear not consistent
with other.
Regards,
Toni |
Nov 05 2002 09:06:39 |
ciro fusco
xxx@xxx |
A possible sungrazer comet in C2.
1024x1024
20021105
Time x,y
8:30 371,724
8:54 378,712
9:30 390,692
Ciro |
Nov 05 2002 11:42:17 |
Sebastian Hönig
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Ciro,
what you spotted is an alignment of noise. Some reasons:
(1)The object is not present at the 09:06 image. Comets must be
visible in all consecutive images. Also, a comet with such a
brightness should be visisble much earlier
(2)This is not the direction of a sungrazer for this time of
year. In general "sungrazer" is a reserved word for Kreutz
comets. At http://www.ph.u-net.com/comets/c2paths.htm you can
see where they are visible at each time of year.
(3)Normally comets are not seen that close to the disc due to
variable reason.
For more information please read (and use) Derek's red posts on
this page.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 06 2002 05:57:13 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C3
positions 1024x1024 0,0 top-left
20021106
0818 665,651
0842 660,648
0918 654,648
0942 649,639
Regards,
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 06 2002 06:02:44 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Sorry!
the position at 0918 is 654,642
Toni |
Nov 06 2002 21:50:16 |
Rob Matson
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2000 September 7 - ARCHIVE non-group comet found in C3.
It may be visible late on September 6th as well:
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM FITSFile Col Row
---------- ----- -------- --- ---
2000-09-07 00:18 32057890 859 450
00:42 32057891 857 450
01:42 32057892 854 451
02:18 32057893 850 452
02:42 32057894 849 452
03:18 32057895 847 453
03:42 32057896 846 453
04:18 32057897 844 454
04:42 32057898 841 455 (lost in noise)
05:18 32057899 840 455
05:42 32057900 838 455
06:18 32057901 836 456
06:42 32057902 835 456
...
10:42 32057910 820 459
...
14:42 32057917 803 464
...
17:42 32057923 792 467
...
22:18 32057931 775 472
I haven't checked beyond this point, but I imagine this is
sufficient to identify the comet in the images. It is not
a member of the Kreutz, Kracht, Meyer or Marsden groups.
Just in case, I checked for planets and asteroids, but none
are candidates.
--Rob |
Nov 06 2002 22:50:28 |
Rob Matson
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UPDATE 2000 September 7/8 archive non-group C3 comet.
Apologies for forgetting to include the coordinate reference
in my prior post. They are 1024x1024 coordinates, 0,0 in
upper left corner. An additional position for Sept. 8th:
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM FITSFile Col Row
---------- ----- -------- --- ---
2000-09-08 06:42 32057948 743 480
It either fades out or is lost in the noise not long after
this point. --Rob |
Nov 07 2002 10:24:11 |
Rainer Kracht
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Marsden group comet in archival C3 images of 2000 Feb 04/05.
C3, 1024x1024, 0,0 upper left
32047257.fts 23:54 363, 481
32047258.fts 00:06 366, 480
32047259.fts 00:18 368, 479
32047260.fts 00:29 371, 478
32047261.fts 00:41 373, 476
32047262.fts 00:53 375, 475
32047263.fts 01:14 379, 473
32047264.fts 01:32 383, 471
32047265.fts 01:51 387, 469
32047266.fts 02:16 393, 467
I think this is SOHO-101 C/2000 C4
found by Maik Meyer in C2
Rainer
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Nov 07 2002 12:34:21 |
Rainer Kracht
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Rob, your archival C3 find looks like 2P/Encke!
Rainer
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Nov 07 2002 16:38:23 |
Rainer Kracht
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Known comets in C3 (and C2)
A description of non-SOHO comets in C2 and C3 can be found at
http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~jds/kreutz.htm.
With the orbital elements from MPEC 2002-V31
also the track of C/2002 V1 (NEAT)
will go through C3 2003 Feb 18/19.
Rainer
|
Nov 07 2002 17:14:35 |
Sebastian Hönig
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Hi all,
as Rainer pointed out C/2002 V1 (NEAT) will be visible in LASCO
C3 in February 2003 - from Feb 15 23:18 to Feb 20 06:18.
First information:
http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shoenig/2002v1.html
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 09 2002 03:12:19 |
David Evans
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Monitoring the movement of a possible new comet in real-time C2
2002/11/09. 512x512 B/W LASCO images. 0,0 Top-Left
Initial position -
07:31 330, 508
More positions to follow soon...
- Dave |
Nov 09 2002 03:15:33 |
Xavier Leprette
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Possible Kreutz comet in a real-time C2 B/W images of 2002/11/09
It is visible from 07:31 till 08:06 UT in 2 consecutive images
Rough positions measured from the top-left corner of 512x512 frames :
col, row
07:31 329,508
07:54 -,- bad image
08:06 321,494
Xavier Leprette |
Nov 09 2002 03:24:54 |
Xavier Leprette
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Hi Dave,
You have sent a report with only one position, it's not correct. You don't respect
Hammers's rules. I have waited for next picture (7:54 and 8:06) to send my report
according these rules. I have seen this comet at 7:31 but one image is not enough
to send a report.
Xavier |
Nov 09 2002 03:43:13 |
David Evans
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Update:
Re my report of new comet in real-time C2 Nov 09 2002 03:12:19
2002/11/09. 512x512 B/W LASCO images. 0,0 Top-Left
More positions now
07:31 330, 508
07:54 Unusable image...
08:06 320, 494
Hi Xavier, I did wait for the second image but it came through
unusable so I waited for the 08:06 image to visually confirm the
object was indeed real! Then I quickly posted to make the claim.
The fact that I did wait for the follow up image can be verified
in the time of the claim. I beat you fairly Im afraid.
Actually I have been working hard on my image aquisition and
reporting speed. The method is now being used by my good friend
John Sachs and myself. With this method it is possible to report
a visually confirmed find of an obvious comet within only 30
seconds of receiving the second image from when it is posted to
the net! Im sure Derek will not mind one bit about the reporting
speed for this comet.
First one to see and report the find gets the credit I believe
and my report was posted 9 minutes before yours.
Better luck next time...
- Dave
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Nov 09 2002 03:50:25 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Sorry Xavier I said in my previous post that I beat you by 9
minutes. This is indeed incorrect, to rectify the error it was
infact just 3 minutes. Apologies for that...
- Dave
|
Nov 09 2002 04:07:21 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
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Good afternoon all!
Appear the disputes, problems...
It is Necessary to take only that reports on opening , which have 4 scenes, picture...
This truth, which it is necessary to execute.... There is comets(bright), which obviously have a tail or other signs...
About such possible report and in two positions, how do I seem...
I think that it is impossible also report on opening if you write ----- following coordinates in following message...
I only began the quest of the comets on SOHO... Consider only so...
Can I mistaken?
Sergey Shurpakov |
Nov 09 2002 04:12:09 |
Maik Meyer
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Please restrain discussions and questions to the "sohohunter"
discussion group at yahoogroups.
Thanks, Maik |
Nov 09 2002 09:47:03 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
Possible Meyer group comet in C2
starting 13:54 at 911,256
Rainer
|
Nov 09 2002 10:00:56 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
Meyer group comet in C2 images
b/w 512*512 from the LASCO website
enlarged to 1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021109 1354 910 256
20021109 1406 910 242
20021109 1430 906 216
20021109 1454 904 192
Rainer
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Nov 09 2002 10:10:52 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C3
positions 1024x1024 0,0 top-left
20021109
1023 598,651
1044 596,649
1118 591,644
1142 588,640
Regards,
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 09 2002 10:13:55 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Final Update:
Re: my report of a new comet in real-time C2 posted
Nov 09 2002 03:12:19
9 positions are available - 1024x1024 gif images, 0,0 Top-Left.
07:31 658, 1014
08:06 640, 986
08:30 627, 966
09:06 607, 934
09:30 594, 913
09:54 581, 892
10:34 558, 855
10:56 547, 836
11:06 542, 826
Further comets about this find have been posted at -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sohohunter/message/543
- Dave
|
Nov 09 2002 10:29:17 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in c2 starting at
20021109 1354 911,256
other posistions at next post
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 09 2002 10:32:06 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Other positions comet in c2
20021109 1024x1024 0,0 top-left
1354 911,256
1406 911,243
1454 907,195
1506 902,180
Regards,
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 09 2002 10:44:32 |
Sebastian Hönig
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Concerning the recent reports:
- Congratulations to Dave for his C2 find earlier today
- Confirmation of Rainer's Meyer group comet
- No-detection of Toni's C3 report
- Toni's C2 report coincides with Rainer's
Meyer group comet reported 42 min (!!!) before
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 09 2002 13:17:24 |
ciro fusco
xxx@xxx |
A possible comet in C3 1024*1024
Date 20021109
Time x,y
14:42 985,696
15:18 983,715
15:42 961,732
16:18 940,746
bye Ciro e Susi |
Nov 10 2002 13:15:49 |
Paolo Laquale
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in LASCO C2 image.
1024x1024 0,0 upper left corner.
x,y
20021110_15:30 - -
20021110_15:54 - -
20021110_16:06 697,1005 (very diffuse)
20021110_16:30 700,996 (diffuse and evident coma)
I not see the comet in image 15:30 and 15:54. I attend
other image to confirm or not !
The comet moves toward the sun
Regards Paolo Laquale |
Nov 10 2002 13:48:56 |
Paolo Laquale
xxx@xxx |
Sorry, disregard my last post, it's only noise.
I not see the possible comet in image
20021110_16:54
20021110_17:06
20021110_17:30
20021110_17:54
Regards Paolo Laquale |
Nov 10 2002 15:19:57 |
Gregg Gallina
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in LASCO C3.
1024x1024 with 0,0 in Bottom Right.
x,y
20021110_1642 640, 15 ?
20021110_1718 638, 22 ?
20021110_1742 632, 28
20021110_1818 629, 37
20021110_1842 627, 43
20021110_1942 618, 52
Comet starts faint (near limb- ?'s) then becomes better defined.
Thanks to Sebatian for giving me advice yesterday... I think this
one is real.
Best regards,
Gregg Gallina |
Nov 10 2002 15:45:16 |
O. C. St.Cyr
xxx@xxx |
LASCO C3 on 2002-04-15, crossing under the pylon on that day.
At PA=144, R~23.5 at beginning of day.
Has this one been reported? I can't tell from the listing...
Thanks. CSt
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Nov 10 2002 16:15:01 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
Kreutz group comet in archival C3 images of 2000 Apr 10.
C3, 1024x1024, 0,0 upper left
32050855.fts 12:18 444, 663
32050856.fts 12:42 447, 659
32050857.fts 13:42 456, 648
32050858.fts 14:18 461, 642
32050859.fts 14:42 464, 637
32050860.fts 15:18 469, 631
32050861.fts 15:42 472, 627
32050862.fts 16:18 477, 619
32050863.fts 16:42 482, 614
small comet, well visible in C3
could be visible in C2 also
Rainer
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Nov 10 2002 16:23:13 |
Gregg xxx@xxx
Gallina |
Made a mistake... (stupid newbie)
The 0,0 was in the Bottom Left
in my report
Sorry,
Gregg Gallina
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Nov 10 2002 16:51:29 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
UPDATE Kreutz group comet in archival images of 2000 Apr 10.
C3/C2, 1024x1024, 0,0 upper left
32050855.fts 12:18 444, 663
32050856.fts 12:42 447, 659
32050857.fts 13:42 456, 648
32050858.fts 14:18 461, 642
32050859.fts 14:42 464, 637
32050860.fts 15:18 469, 631
32050861.fts 15:42 472, 627
32050862.fts 16:18 477, 619
32050863.fts 16:42 482, 614
22065586.fts 18:30 405, 997
22065587.fts 18:55 423, 972
small comet, well visible
18:30 elongated/small tail
Rainer |
Nov 10 2002 20:24:31 |
Derek Hammer
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Hello, I have looked at all claims since my last post. First, I
took another look at Rob's claim of a comet in Nov 2, 2002 C2
images. I have decided to not accept this claim. I simply do not
believe the 4th point and there is nothing obvious about the first
three to warrant an X-comet status.
As for the rest, I have accepted three comets...
SOHO# Reporter Date Camera
-------------------------------------
539 D. Evans 02/11/09 C2,C3?
540 R. Kracht 02/11/09 C2
541 R. Kracht 00/04/10 C2,C3
? - I am waiting for the C3 data gap to fill in.
Among the other reports...
-Rob, your Nov 6 21:50:16 claim is indeed 2P/Encke. I actually
sent CBAT these Encke positions when it was first visible.
However, because...
(1)LASCO resolution is considered poor (for comets), and
(2)LASCO sees only a small fraction of a comet's orbit,
...Brian Marsden found our measurements to be unhelpful.
In fact, orbital solutions are possible for SOHO comets only
because they belong to a group whose orbital elements are well
established. I would guess that there are several possible solutions
for our non-group comets, although I really don't know the
statistics off hand.
-Rainer, your C3 positions reported on Nov 7 10:24:11 are
indeed SOHO-101 (C/2000 C4). Good find.
-Ciro, your Nov 9 13:17:24 claim is not real based on the speed
of the positions. If you look at the change in x between
14:42-15:42 & 15:18-16:18, you will see the speeds are not
consistent.
-Gregg, your claim is not real. I do not see anything at your
positions except background noise. Also, the speeds are somewhat
inconsistent between images.
-Chris, that is SOHO-422 (C/2002 G3). This comet does not belong
to any known group, so it can be found on the "Other" page.
Derek
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Nov 11 2002 13:13:57 |
Ciro Fusco
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A possible comet in C2 1024*1024
Date 20021111
Time x,y
14:06 354,975
14:30 359,966
... ...
May possibly be noise - awaiting more images to check....
Ciro
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Nov 11 2002 14:29:17 |
Rainer Kracht
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Ciro, a claim which may be noise should not be posted
with only two positions which indicate that the
presumed comet is not even a member of a known group.
Links to the tracks of the known groups are at:
http://sungrazer.nascom.nasa.gov/cometform.html
I think it is noise and you will find nothing in
the following images.
Rainer
|
Nov 11 2002 21:46:59 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 11/12 -- Non-group comet in real-time C2 beginning
some time prior to 23:54. 1024x1024 frames (0,0 in upper
left):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ---
2002-11-11 23:54 724 840
2002-11-12 00:06 736 833
00:30 758 818
00:54 782 803
More positions in next post. This is probably a Marsden comet.
--Rob
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Nov 11 2002 22:02:41 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
UPDATE 2002 Nov 11/12 -- I've traced the probable Marsden comet
all the way back to 21:30. 1024x1024 frames (0,0 in upper left):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ---
2002-11-11 21:30 583 927
21:54 606 913
22:06 618 906
22:30 642 892
23:06 677 870
23:30 700 855
23:54 724 840
2002-11-12 00:06 736 833
00:30 758 818
00:54 782 803
01:31 817 779
01:54 839 764
--Rob |
Nov 12 2002 01:59:08 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Rob's possible Marsden group comet. Congrats!
Maik |
Nov 12 2002 07:15:35 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
UPDATE SOHO-540 (Meyer group comet in C2 02/11/09)
It was visible several hours before my first posted position
0,0 upper left
time x y
0731 882, 708
0806 889, 666
0830 893, 637
0906 899, 594
0930 902, 565
0954 905, 536
1034 909, 487
1056 911, 461
1106 912, 449
1130 913, 421
1154 914, 393
1206 914, 379
1230 915, 351
1254 914, 323
1332 913, 281
Rainer
|
Nov 12 2002 15:14:08 |
Derek Hammer
xxx@xxx |
Hello,
I, too, confirm Rob's report of a possible Marsden-group comet
in Nov 11-12, 2002 C2 images. I have not checked C3 images yet.
Rough positions below. This is SOHO-542.
# HEIGHT DATE TIME ANGLE TEL FC COL ROW
5.36 2002/11/11 20:30:05 181.3 C2 10 523.0 62.0
5.14 2002/11/11 21:08:08 186.5 C2 10 561.0 83.0
5.04 2002/11/11 21:30:05 189.9 C2 10 584.0 95.0
4.92 2002/11/11 21:54:05 193.4 C2 10 607.0 110.0
4.87 2002/11/11 22:06:05 195.2 C2 10 618.0 117.0
4.80 2002/11/11 22:30:05 199.2 C2 10 643.0 131.0
4.71 2002/11/11 23:06:06 205.0 C2 10 677.0 153.0
4.69 2002/11/11 23:30:05 209.1 C2 10 701.0 167.0
4.68 2002/11/11 23:54:05 213.2 C2 10 724.0 182.0
4.68 2002/11/12 00:06:05 215.3 C2 10 736.0 190.0
4.71 2002/11/12 00:30:05 219.4 C2 10 759.0 205.0
4.75 2002/11/12 00:54:05 223.3 C2 10 782.0 220.0
4.86 2002/11/12 01:31:47 229.5 C2 10 818.0 245.0
4.96 2002/11/12 01:54:06 232.8 C2 10 839.0 258.0
5.01 2002/11/12 02:06:05 234.6 C2 10 850.0 266.0
5.12 2002/11/12 02:30:05 238.1 C2 10 872.0 282.0
5.26 2002/11/12 02:54:05 241.3 C2 10 894.0 297.0
5.33 2002/11/12 03:06:05 242.9 C2 10 905.0 305.0
5.47 2002/11/12 03:30:05 246.0 C2 10 926.0 321.0
5.64 2002/11/12 03:54:06 248.7 C2 10 948.0 336.0
5.72 2002/11/12 04:06:05 250.1 C2 10 958.0 344.0
5.90 2002/11/12 04:30:05 252.7 C2 10 979.0 360.0
6.08 2002/11/12 04:54:05 255.2 C2 10 1000.0 377.0
6.17 2002/11/12 05:06:05 256.3 C2 10 1010.0 384.0
Derek
|
Nov 12 2002 16:14:48 |
John Sachs
xxx@xxx |
Possible Non Kreutz comet C3
0,0 Top Left x and y Coordinates
C3 1024x1024 Images x and y Coordinates
20021112 1842 C3 714 409
20021112 1818 C3 713 412
20021112 1742 C3 711 416
20021112 1718 C3 710 418
John |
Nov 12 2002 16:24:30 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
John,
this is most likely Rob's Marsden group comet (SOHO-542)
moving towards perihelion.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 12 2002 17:02:38 |
John Sachs
xxx@xxx |
I loooked at the track in reverse,
and I believe you are right Sebastian.
It is Robs.Thanks.
John |
Nov 12 2002 17:11:36 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
I found John's C3 comet
time x y
1418 698, 440
1442 700, 437
1518 702, 433
1542 704, 430
1642 708, 422
1718 710, 418
This is definitely not a Marsden group comet
(but could be the same as Rob's C2 comet)
Rainer |
Nov 13 2002 04:35:24 |
Kazimieras Cernis
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C3 now.
0,0 in bottom left of 1024x1024
Date Time X Y
2002/11/13 6:42 509 343
7:42 505 353
8:18 502 360
8:42 500 363
Kazimieras Cernis |
Nov 13 2002 04:47:24 |
Kazimieras Cernis
xxx@xxx |
Update.
The comet is seen in 6 images.
0,0 in bottom left corner of 1024x1024 images.
Date Time X Y
2002/11/13 6:18 510 339
9:18 498 370
Kazimieras Cernis |
Nov 13 2002 05:00:27 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Kazimieras' Kreutz comet. It should enter C2 soon.
Maik
|
Nov 13 2002 08:47:24 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Kazimieras' comet enters C2 13:31 at 323,1009
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 13 2002 08:52:31 |
Xavier Leprette
xxx@xxx |
Cernis's comet is coming in c2 field at 13:31
13:31 163,509 BW image 512
Xavier Leprette |
Nov 13 2002 18:20:37 |
Derek Hammer
xxx@xxx |
Hello,
Todays Kreutz comet, reported by Kazimieras, is SOHO-543.
# HEIGHT DATE TIME ANGLE TEL FC COL ROW
12.38 2002/11/13 03:18:05 181.9 C3 10 525.0 312.0
12.09 2002/11/13 03:42:06 181.4 C3 10 523.0 317.0
11.80 2002/11/13 04:18:05 180.3 C3 10 519.0 322.0
11.52 2002/11/13 04:42:05 179.8 C3 10 517.0 327.0
11.18 2002/11/13 05:18:05 178.9 C3 10 514.0 333.0
11.07 2002/11/13 05:42:05 178.6 C3 10 513.0 335.0
10.34 2002/11/13 06:42:05 177.2 C3 10 509.0 348.0
9.79 2002/11/13 07:42:05 175.4 C3 10 504.0 358.0
9.41 2002/11/13 08:18:05 174.2 C3 10 501.0 365.0
9.14 2002/11/13 08:42:05 173.7 C3 10 500.0 370.0
8.82 2002/11/13 09:18:05 172.4 C3 10 497.0 376.0
8.55 2002/11/13 09:42:05 171.7 C3 10 496.0 381.0
8.18 2002/11/13 10:20:06 170.2 C3 10 493.0 388.0
7.97 2002/11/13 10:42:05 169.5 C3 10 492.0 392.0
7.62 2002/11/13 11:18:06 167.7 C3 10 489.0 399.0
7.35 2002/11/13 11:42:05 166.8 C3 10 488.0 404.0
7.07 2002/11/13 12:18:05 164.8 C3 10 485.0 410.0
6.81 2002/11/13 12:42:05 163.7 C3 10 484.0 415.0
6.13 2002/11/13 13:42:06 159.7 C3 10 480.0 429.0
# HEIGHT DATE TIME ANGLE TEL FC COL ROW
6.43 2002/11/13 13:31:44 159.6 C2 10 327.0 5.0
6.21 2002/11/13 13:54:05 158.2 C2 10 321.0 27.0
5.61 2002/11/13 14:54:05 153.4 C2 10 305.0 90.0
5.50 2002/11/13 15:06:06 152.4 C2 10 302.0 102.0
5.27 2002/11/13 15:30:05 150.3 C2 10 297.0 127.0
Derek |
Nov 14 2002 07:43:20 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
New sungrazer in LASCO C2 images
Date: Nov 14, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 512x512
Time (x,y)
06:06 163,506
06:30
More positions soon.
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 14 2002 07:45:16 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Sorry, I came on the submit button of my prepared
form. Didn't want to post this.
I withdraw the report. Again sorry... :(
Sebastian |
Nov 15 2002 11:11:28 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
possible comet in c2 starting at
20021115 0600 718,1004
1024x1024 0,0 top-left
other positions at next post
Toni scarmato |
Nov 15 2002 11:16:11 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Update possible comet in c2
20021115 1024x1024 0,0 top-left
0600 718,1004
0612 686,982
0624 660,962
0636 643,940
0648 626,917
Regards,
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 15 2002 12:37:40 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
Date: Nov 15, 2002
A possible comet in C3 ?
Brief description:
On picture from 2002/11/15 at time lag
13:42 - 15:18 I have found the movinging object(4 images)
0,0 in upper left corner
Time (x,y)
13:42 696,1004
14:18 688,999
14:42 681,994
15:18 676,981
Regards,
|
Nov 15 2002 12:38:33 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
Date: Nov 15, 2002
A possible comet in C3 ?
Brief description:
On picture from 2002/11/15 at time lag
13:42 - 15:18 I have found the movinging object(4 images)
0,0 in upper left corner
Time (x,y)
13:42 696,1004
14:18 688,999
14:42 681,994
15:18 676,981
Regards,
Sergey Shurpakov
|
Nov 15 2002 12:59:18 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Concerning the last two reports: I cannot confirm
bobth of them.
Sergey, your object`s motion is not consistant.
Look at the x and y positions: x slows down and
the last y position would mean an enormous
acceleration. All of this is something a real object
would not do.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 15 2002 13:05:17 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
Nov 15. 2002 C3
The object it is enough bright, a little extended...
Revision for message:
x y
2002/11/ 15 15:18 675 987
Sergey Shurpakov
|
Nov 15 2002 13:54:25 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
15 Nov 2002
The Translator of the Computer...
Sebastian!
I have not read your messages and has done the correction for the last position...
11/15/ 2002 15:18 x = 675, y = 987
The Hurry... thank You... But but then moving the object will wholly be correct...! So?
Sergey Shurpakov |
Nov 15 2002 17:58:27 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 15 -- Dim Kreutz comet in real-time C2 beginning at
20:24. 1024x1024 frames (0,0 in upper left):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-15 20:24 542 1016
20:36 537 1005
20:48 532 995
21:12 521 975
21:24 517 964
21:36 512 954
--Rob |
Nov 15 2002 18:06:30 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
UPDATE 2002 Nov 15 -- Two more positions for Kreutz comet in real-time C2. 1024x1024 frames (0,0 in upper left):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-15 21:48 507 944
22:00 502 933
Good thing for high cadence -- I doubt I would have seen it
without the 12-minute revisit rate. --Rob |
Nov 15 2002 18:53:51 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Rob's Kreutz comet. Oh dear, this
one is REALLY on the dim side... ;)
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 16 2002 02:22:14 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
A small faint Kreutz comet in recent C2 gif images.
Visible in 7 frames. 1024x1024 0,0 Top-Left.
2002/11/08
09:06 693,1015
09:30 681, 994
09:54 667, 975
10:06 661, 964
10:30 646, 942
10:54 632, 923
11:06 626, 912
- Dave |
Nov 16 2002 03:02:31 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Dave,
sorry, I cannot confirm your comet - just a
no-detection from my side.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 16 2002 03:51:49 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Update: Re my claim of Nov 16 2002 02:22:14
Hi Sebastian,
Thank you for responding so fast. I have uploaded an animation
of the claim to the Yahoo sohohunter clubsite in the Photo
section and it shows the movement of the Kreutz comet quite well.
This is a very faint and difficult find.... Hope this helps.
- Dave |
Nov 16 2002 04:10:03 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Ah well, was my fault. I took the images of
Nov 09. Sorry Dave. Yes, I see something moving
there
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 16 2002 10:56:11 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
A sungrazer comet in c2 images now(B/W).
with a short tail.
0,0 in upper left corner
Images Size X, Y
20021116_1524_c2.gif 512 x 512 162, 511
20021116_1536_c2.gif 512 x 512 159 506
Waitting for more images to be confirmed.
Regards,
XingMing Zhou |
Nov 16 2002 11:14:00 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
Update
A sungrazer comet in c2 images now(B/W).
with a short tail.
0,0 in upper left corner
Images Size X, Y
20021116_1524_c2.gif 512 x 512 162, 511
20021116_1536_c2.gif 512 x 512 160 504
20021116_1548_c2.gif 512 x 512 159 499
20021116_1600_c2.gif 512 x 512 158 492
Regards,
XingMing Zhou |
Nov 16 2002 11:22:43 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
New comet in c2 1024x014 0,0 top left
starting at
20021116 1524 324,1020
other positions at next post
Toni scarmato |
Nov 16 2002 11:27:09 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
The comet is covered by the number 3 at
20021116 1536 322,1007
Congrats XingMing
Toni |
Nov 16 2002 12:47:10 |
Paolo Laquale
xxx@xxx |
XingMing comet update:
I see the comet in following C2 images:(1024x1024; 0,0 upper left)
x,y
20021116_16:00 315,985
20021116_16:12 313,973
20021116_16:24 310,961
Nice comet: congratulations XingMing!
Regards Paolo Laquale
|
Nov 16 2002 17:16:36 |
michael boschat
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C3 images - 20021116_1918 UT
512 x 512 images used. 0,477 in lower left corner.
UT XY
1918 277, 364
1942 280, 361
2018 281, 357
2042 283 352
x-coordinates are probably correct,but y-coordinates may be off by
several pixels.
Mike B. |
Nov 16 2002 20:36:53 |
Derek Hammer
xxx@xxx |
Okay, I've had a look at all the recent claims. For now, I can
definitely confirm XingMing's claim in C2. I'm still debating as
to whether I see it in C3 however. Very rough positions below.
Toni, your claim is just random noise and even then the speeds
vary erratically between some images.
Sergey, I saw nothing above the noise level at your positions.
I still want to take another look at the faint C2 claims from Rob
and Dave before I make a decision. I find it's always best to look
at these extraordinary faint claims over the span of a few days.
By the way, Dave, I saw your movie on the yahoo chat site. I think
you may have picked up some noise from the gif processing as the
fits images do not reveal the two flanking anomalies shown in
every frame of your movie. I only see this structure in the 9:30
frame of the fits images. Nevertheless, I do see something near
the positions you give. Those gifs can be deceiving!
# COMMENT: SOHO-54? X.-M. Zhou
# HEIGHT DATE TIME ANGLE TEL FC COL ROW
6.46 2002/11/16 15:24:05 159.4 C2 10 324.0 3.0
6.33 2002/11/16 15:36:05 158.6 C2 10 321.0 16.0
6.22 2002/11/16 15:48:06 157.8 C2 10 318.0 27.0
6.09 2002/11/16 16:00:37 157.0 C2 10 315.0 40.0
5.99 2002/11/16 16:12:05 156.2 C2 10 312.0 51.0
5.87 2002/11/16 16:24:05 155.4 C2 10 310.0 63.0
5.76 2002/11/16 16:36:05 154.6 C2 10 308.0 74.0
5.63 2002/11/16 16:48:05 153.4 C2 10 304.0 88.0
5.54 2002/11/16 17:00:05 152.6 C2 10 302.0 100.0
5.40 2002/11/16 17:12:05 151.4 C2 10 299.0 113.0
SOHO numbers will be assigned after Rob and Dave's claims are
decided.
Derek |
Nov 17 2002 14:09:23 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
possible comet in C2 images
b/w 512*512 from the LASCO website
enlarged to 1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021117 1836 450 1016
20021117 1848 446 1008
20021117 1900 442 998
Rainer |
Nov 17 2002 14:38:28 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
UPDATE and confirmation of small Kreutz group comet in C2 images
b/w 512*512 from the LASCO website
enlarged to 1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021117 1836 450 1016
20021117 1848 446 1008
20021117 1900 442 998
20021117 1912 438 988
Rainer
|
Nov 17 2002 14:38:41 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
I can confirm Rainer's C2 find. Object continues at
19:12 to X=438, Y=988 (expanded from 512x512). Nice
real-time recovery. --Rob |
Nov 17 2002 15:43:28 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C2
1024*1024
date 20021117
time x,y
1836 451,1017
1900 444,999
1912 439,989
... .... |
Nov 17 2002 15:47:08 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C2
1024*1024
date 20021117
time x,y
1836 451,1017
1848 447,1008
1900 444,999
1912 439,989
... ....
Ciro |
Nov 17 2002 16:14:55 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Other information approximately the comet in c2
1024*1024
date 20021117
time x,y
19:24 435,980
19:36 432,972
19:48 428,961
20:00 424,950
Ciro |
Nov 17 2002 16:17:04 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Ciro,
you need not repeat reports of this comet. Please
scroll down and see that it was discovered by
Rainer and confirmed by Rob. By the way: 4 positions
are enough, there's no need in reporting more and
more.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 17 2002 16:45:24 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 17 -- Is Rainer's Kreutz comet visible in real-time C3?
Looks like something coming and going in the following frames.
1024x1024 coordinates (0,0 in upper left corner):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-17 17:18 521 646
17:42 520 643
18:18 518 638
18:42 516 635
19:18 513 630 (@ noise level)
--Rob |
Nov 17 2002 17:39:48 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Another faint claim... This one concerns a possible C2 Kreutz
comet visible in 6 images of 2002/05/01.
1024x1024 0,0 Top-Left
02:26 617, 993
02:50 619, 978
03:06 620, 968
03:26 622, 956
03:50 624, 941
04:06 625, 929
Perhaps somewhat difficult to locate at first, but once found
the object can be followed quite easily.
- Dave
|
Nov 17 2002 19:51:54 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Dave,
I downloaded the fits images and looped them many
times. Result: nothing visible at this positions
(May 01, 2002; fits 22117991 (02:06) - ..97 (04:06); processed via dark + flatfield).
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 18 2002 11:25:26 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Possibe comet in c2
positions 1024x1024 0,0 top-left
20021118
1348 58,640
1400 65,616
1412 72,590
1424 79,565
Regards,
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 18 2002 14:07:56 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
b/w 512*512 from the LASCO website
enlarged to 1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021118 1836 500 972
20021118 1848 494 962
Rainer
|
Nov 18 2002 14:18:38 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
Udate Kreutz group comet in C2 images
b/w 512*512 from the LASCO website
enlarged to 1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021118 1836 500 972
20021118 1848 494 962
20021118 1900 490 952
20021118 1912 486 940
Rainer
|
Nov 18 2002 14:24:26 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Rainer's sungrazer. Congrats.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 19 2002 05:26:57 |
Raymund John Ang
xxx@xxx |
Unidentified Object in LASCO C3 images.
Date: Nov. 18, 2002 (2002-11-18)
Brief Description:
A "star-like" point seems to shift its position against the backgroud stars. I am positive that the object is moving.
Positions: 1024x1024 images, (0,0) upper left
Time (x,y)
06:42 767,212
07:18 767,212
07:42 767,212
08:18 767,212
08:42 767,212
09:18 767,212
Regards,
Raymund |
Nov 19 2002 05:59:35 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Raymund,
this is definitely an image processing artefact. Non-moving points
are either this or cold or hot pixels. Sorry, no real object.
Hope this helps, Maik |
Nov 19 2002 09:33:31 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Kreutz sungrazer in real-time images
b/w extrapolated to 1024x1024, 0,0 upper left
2002/11/19
13:27 520, 980
13:50 510, 964
14:06 504, 950
Medium bright at first, becoming fainter. Confirmation hopefully) with following images.
Maik |
Nov 19 2002 09:40:38 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
Possible Kreutz comet in c2 images now(B/W).
It's fuzzy and with tail.
0,0 in upper left corner
Images Size X, Y
20021119_1327_c2.gif 512 x 512 260, 491
20021119_1350_c2.gif 512 x 512 256 482
20021119_1406_c2.gif 512 x 512 252 476
Regards,
XingMing Zhou |
Nov 19 2002 09:50:59 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Final confirmation of Kreutz comet in real-time C2 images
1024x1024, 0,0 upper left, 2002/11/19
13:27 520, 981
13:50 510, 964 (b/w extrapolated)
14:06 504, 950 (b/w extrapolated)
14:26 498, 932 (b/w extrapolated)
There are previous images with the comet (from about 12:24) which are
currently delayed.
Maik
|
Nov 19 2002 09:53:11 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
Possible Kreutz comet in c2 images now(B/W).
It's fuzzy and with tail.
0,0 in upper left corner
Images Size X, Y
20021119_1327_c2.gif 512 x 512 260, 491
20021119_1350_c2.gif 512 x 512 256 482
20021119_1406_c2.gif 512 x 512 252 476
20021119_1426_c2.gif 512 x 512 249 466
Regards,
XingMing Zhou |
Nov 19 2002 09:58:18 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Maik's comet,you first report, Congrats.
Regards,
XingMing Zhou |
Nov 19 2002 13:13:18 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
possible faint non group comet in C2 images
b/w 512*512 from the LASCO website
enlarged to 1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021119 1626 1016 88
20021119 1650 994 72
20021119 1706 982 64
20021119 1726 968 56
20021119 1750 950 48
Rainer
|
Nov 19 2002 14:20:26 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
Update possible faint non group comet in C2 images
It's not convincing in 1024 * 1024
Sorry, looks like noise.
Rainer |
Nov 19 2002 17:47:54 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
New sungrazer in LASCO C3 images
Date: Nov 19, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 1024 x 1024
Time (x,y)
20:18 599,762
20:42
21:18
More positions soon.
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 19 2002 17:47:57 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
New sungrazer in LASCO C3 images
Date: Nov 19, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 1024 x 1024
Time (x,y)
20:18 599,762
20:42
21:18
More positions soon.
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 19 2002 17:51:37 |
John Sachs
xxx@xxx |
Possible New Kreutz comet C3
0,0 Top Left x and y Coordinates
C3 1024x1024 Images x and y Coordinates
20021119 2018 C3 599 763
20021119 1942 C3 603 769
20021119 1842 C3 607 777
20021119 1818 C3 609 780
Thanks
John |
Nov 19 2002 17:55:06 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
New sungrazer in LASCO C3 images
(Update of previous report)
Date: Nov 19, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 1024 x 1024
Time (x,y)
17:18 614,788
17:42 612,785
18:18 609,780
18:42 607,776
19:42 602,767
20:18 599,762
20:42 598,759
21:18 595,754
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 19 2002 17:59:24 |
John Sachs
xxx@xxx |
Congrats Sebastian.
On the comet in C3 today.
John |
Nov 20 2002 01:27:54 |
Thomas Remmert
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in LASCO C2 images
Date: Nov, 20 2002
Positions: 1024x1024 images, (0,0) upper left
Time (x,y)
08:50 199 23
09:06 201 23
09:26 204 23
09:50 206 23
Regards,
Thomas Remmert |
Nov 20 2002 01:36:12 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Thomas,
the images with that time stamp are note yet taken for Nov. 20.
What day do you really mean? Second, you y coordinates do not
change meaning that is is a star.
Maik |
Nov 20 2002 04:03:49 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 20 -- There now appears to be a dimmer fragment
leading Sebastian's C3 comet. 1024x1024 coordinates
(0,0 in upper left corner):
Hoenig 2nd frag.
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row Col Row
---------- ----- --- --- --- ---
2002-11-20 06:18 552 674 548 668
06:42 550 670 546 664
07:42 546 660 542 654 (expanded from 512x512)
(Apologies for now waiting for the 1024x1024 color image
to appear for 07:42, but it seems to be taking forever
and I need to get to sleep.)
--Rob |
Nov 20 2002 09:52:36 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
Sebastian's C3 Kreutz comet has entered the C2 field
b/w 512*512 from the LASCO website
enlarged to 1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021120 1406 494 1020
20021120 1426 488 1004
Rainer
|
Nov 20 2002 09:52:39 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
My yesterday's C3 comet enters C2 at
14:06 494,1020
14:26 488,1004
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 20 2002 11:30:21 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C2
1024*1024
date 20021120
time x,y
1450 479,984
1506 474,969
...
aspect other images for the confirmation
Regards,
Ciro |
Nov 20 2002 11:35:53 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Excused only now me are shrewed that the comet from marked me has been already announced |
Nov 20 2002 15:46:50 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 20 -- UPDATE on the possible Kreutz fragment that I
reported earlier leading Sebastian's C3 comet. Now that more
1024x1024 frames are available, I have my doubts that it was
real. While something dim appears to lead the comet in 5 out
of 6 frames, it isn't bright enough to inspire much confidence. Furthermore, it doesn't show up in C2. But for completeness, here's what I have:
Hoenig's 2nd frag
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row Col Row
---------- ----- --- --- --- ---
2002-11-20 05:18 557 683 553 680
05:42 555 680 551 676
06:18 552 674 548 668
06:42 550 670 546 664
07:42 546 661 -------
08:18 543 655 540 649
--Rob |
Nov 20 2002 18:26:34 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
Turns out there *was* a dim Kreutz comet preceding Sebastian's
comet. It's visible in C2 beginning at 08:26. 1024x1024
approximate coordinates (0,0 in upper left):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-20 08:26 495 1014
08:50 486 994
09:06 480 980
09:26 474 963
09:54 464 941
10:06 (duplicated strip)
--Rob |
Nov 21 2002 03:00:42 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Rob's dim Kreutz comet preceding Sebastian's.
Eagle-eye Rob. ;) The question remains if it is connected with the
object seen in C3.
Maik
|
Nov 21 2002 10:36:28 |
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Nov 21 2002 19:06:25 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in real-time C
2002/11/21 Lasco B/W images. 0,0 Top-Left.
23:26 124, 507
- Dave |
Nov 21 2002 19:08:53 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Re my previous post
Positions refer to real-time C2
23:26 124, 507
23:50 122, 595
- Dave |
Nov 21 2002 19:11:42 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Re my previous post
A positional error...
23:26 124, 507
23:50 122, 495 'Correction'
(Sorry, it's been a long working day for me *smiles*)
- Dave |
Nov 21 2002 19:20:46 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
Probable Kreutz comet in real-time C2. Waiting for some
more images, but has a tail so it's pretty obvious.
1024x1024 coords expanded from 512x512 B&w coords (0,0
in upper left corner):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-21 23:26 246 1010
2002-11-22 00:06 240 972
--Rob |
Nov 21 2002 19:26:54 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 21/22 UPDATE. I see that Dave identified the same
first data point as I, but his second point must be wrong.
A 1024x1024 color frame is available now for the 23:26
image -- updated coordinates for it below:
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-21 23:26 246 1012
--Rob |
Nov 21 2002 19:34:06 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 21/22 UPDATE. Dave's comet is easily visible in C3.
I don't know how I missed it! Here are a few data points
(1024X1024, 0,0 in upper left corner):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ---
2002-11-21 19:42 472 639
20:18 470 632
20:42 469 628
21:18 468 621
--Rob |
Nov 21 2002 19:36:30 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Re: Comet in real-time C2
Update to my initial posting of Nov 21 2002 19:06:25
4 positions are now available for confirmation.
Lasco B/W images. 512x512. 0,0 Top-Left.
2002/11/21
23:26 123, 507
23:50 122, 495
2002/11/22
00:06 121, 487
00:26 120, 478
This is a medium bright C2 Kreutz comet with a short tail...
- Dave |
Nov 22 2002 00:51:27 |
Derek Hammer
xxx@xxx |
Hello, the comet frenzy appears to continue. I have made decisions
on all claims. The results are below...
SOHO# Reported By Date Camera
------------------------------------------
544 R. Matson 02/11/15 C2
545 X.-M. Zhou 02/11/16 C2,C3?
546 R. Kracht 02/11/17 C2
547 R. Kracht 02/11/18 C2
548 M. Meyer 02/11/19 C2
549 S. Hoenig 02/11/19-20 C2,C3
550 R. Matson 02/11/20 C2
551 D. Evans 02/11/21-22 C2,C3
Rob, your C3 positions for SOHO-546 do not match the trajectory
of the C2 positions. Looks like it was noise. Also, as you've
probably guessed, the C3 positions for your claim (SOHO-550) do
not match your C2 positions...plus I really didn't see much
at the positions anyway.
Dave, I looked at your pending claim with several processing
methods. Some looked better than others but, in the grand scheme,
none convinced me. Each processing method agrees on the same
coordinates for your object but they usually differed from the ones
you provided...albeit not by much. However, the deviation was
significant enough to suggest an inconsistent change in the
y-coordinate. It appears to be noise.
If anyone has questions or comments, please email me.
Derek |
Nov 22 2002 07:44:48 |
Kazimieras Cernis
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C3 now.
0,0 in bottom left corner in 1024 images.
Date Time X Y
2001/11/22 11:18 484 336
More positions soon.
Kazimieras Cernis |
Nov 22 2002 07:47:55 |
Kazimieras Cernis
xxx@xxx |
The comet in C3 now.
0,0 in bottom left corner in 1024 images.
Date Time X Y
2001/11/22 8:42 491 309
9:18 489 317
10:42 485 330
11:18 484 336
Kazimieras Cernis |
Nov 22 2002 08:22:15 |
Kazimieras Cernis
xxx@xxx |
Update. Corrected ccordinates.
The Kreutz group comet in C3 now.
0,0 in bottom left corner in 1024x1024 images.
Date Time X Y
2001/11/22 8:18 491 305
8:42 491 310
9:18 489 316
10:42 485 329
11:18 484 336
11:42 482 341
Kazimieras Cernis |
Nov 22 2002 09:36:59 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Kazimiers' sungrazer. Congrats.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 22 2002 10:33:43 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C2 1024*1024
Date 20021122
Time X,Y
0750 439,922
0806 436,906
0826 435,890
0850 433,879
Regards,
Ciro |
Nov 22 2002 12:39:26 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in real-time C3
2002/11/22 Lasco B/W images. 512x512. 0,0 Top-Left
15:18 285, 374
16:07 283, 371
16:42 281, 368
17:18 280, 365
- Dave
|
Nov 22 2002 12:47:50 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in c3 starting at
20021122 1518 566,746
1024x1024 0,0 top-left
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 22 2002 12:49:06 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Update Possible comet in c3
20021122
1518 566,746
1607 564,738
1642 562,734
1024x1024 0,0 top-left
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 22 2002 12:53:11 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Dave's C3 comet. Congrats.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 22 2002 12:54:59 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Update Possible comet in c3
20021122
1342 575,760
1418 572,754
1442 570,750
1518 566,746
1607 564,738
1642 562,734
1024x1024 0,0 top-left
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 22 2002 13:11:45 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
Date: Nov 22, 2002
A possible comet in C3...
Brief description:
On picture from 2002/11/22 at time lag
14:18 - 16:07 I have found the movinging object(4 images)
0,0 in upper left corner
1024x1024
Time (x,y)
14:18 475,650
14:42 474,646
15:18 473,639
16:07 466,655
Regards,
Sergey Shurpakov |
Nov 22 2002 13:17:56 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
A possible 2nd (quite faint) comet in real-time C3
2002/11/22 Lasco B/W images. 512x512. 0,0 Top-Left
14:42 235, 344
15:18 235, 341
16:07 236, 337
16:42 236, 334
17:18 235, 330
- Dave
|
Nov 22 2002 13:41:30 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
The Computer translator...
The Addition...to message below...
The comet falls into corona("the ray") Sun and the last coordinate possible not very exact...
Òîni! I had two scenes 14:18 and 14:42... I not to manage something notice... Can in group someone will even so look the more experienced watcher... Excuse me...
|
Nov 22 2002 13:55:14 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Regardsing all the recent claims:
- As already stated Dave's comet was seen by me
- Toni's claims conincide with Dave's positions
- Sergey's claim cannot be confirmed
- Dave's 2nd claim also is a no-detection. Just a hint:
Faint objects should be reported only in 1024 images as
b/w provides a lot of noise.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 22 2002 14:33:24 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
Date: Nov 22, 2002
A possible comet in C3...
Brief description:
On picture from 2002/11/22 at time lag
14:18 - 16:07 I have found the movinging object(4 images)
0,0 in upper left corner
1024x1024
Time (x,y)
14:18 388,230
14:42 393,237
15:18 397,241
16:07 404,246
Regards,
Sergey Shurpakov
|
Nov 22 2002 14:37:43 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
possible comet in C2 images
b/w 512*512 from the LASCO website
enlarged to 1024*1024
0,0 in upper left corner
Date Time x y
20021122 1854 252 1018
20021122 1931 248 982
Rainer |
Nov 22 2002 14:50:25 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
It is possible that Rainer's C2 find may be the C3 comet found
by Kazimieras Cernis earlier today...
- Dave |
Nov 22 2002 15:00:37 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
Update Kreutz group comet in C2 images
Date Time x y
20021122 1854 252 1018
20021122 1931 248 982
20021122 1954 246 960
yes, I think it's the C3 comet found
by Kazimieras Cernis earlier today...
Rainer
|
Nov 22 2002 15:19:28 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 22 -- Another Kreutz comet enters C2 below Kazimieras
Cernis' C3/C2 comet at 20:06. No doubt paired to it. 1024x1024
coordinates (0,0 upper left):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-22 20:06 230 1018
--Rob |
Nov 22 2002 15:23:58 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
One position with no other image available, no tail, no movement?
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 22 2002 15:48:26 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 22 -- I must humbly withdraw my last post. Sebastian
was absolutely right. My confidence in the single position was
based on the optical signature of the blur, the positional
association with Cernis' comet immediately above it, and the
appearance in C3 that Cernis' comet had multiple components.
(The latter may still prove true). Apologies for cluttering
the list. --Rob |
Nov 22 2002 16:33:40 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C2 1024*1024
20021122
time x,y
1931 248,981
1954 246,959
2006 245,947
more informations after immages
Regards,
Ciro, Antonio |
Nov 22 2002 16:37:59 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Antonio,
this comet is Kazimieras' C3 find as it was already
mentioned in some posts below. Please read the board
before reporting.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 22 2002 16:46:03 |
David Johnson
xxx@xxx |
Fairly bright comet found in C3 from today (11/22/02): (1024x1024, 0 in top left corner)
16:07 - 566,740
16:42 - 564,734
17:18 - 560,728
18:18 - 555,721
18:42 - 554,718
19:42 - 551,709
David E. Johnson |
Nov 22 2002 16:50:24 |
David Johnson
xxx@xxx |
I withdraw my report, as it appears to be the same as reported by Toni Scarmato earlier today. However, I can confirm Toni's report.
David E. Johnson |
Nov 22 2002 16:53:02 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
David,
Dave Evans was the first who reported it, NOT Toni Scarmato. Below a list of todays claims that
could be also detected by others.
Regards, Sebastian
-------------------------
Date Time Observer Tel Visibility
Nov 22 2002 07:44:48 K.Cernis C3 08:18 - 12:42
C2 18:54 - 21:30
Nov 22 2002 12:39:26 D.Evans C3 13:42 - (still visible)
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Nov 22 2002 17:32:28 |
Jim Ruebush
xxx@xxx |
C2 images
20021122 19:31 x 248 y 41 0,0 in lower left
19:54 x 246 y 63
20:06 x 245 y 75
20:30 x 241 y 99
Jim |
Nov 22 2002 17:38:13 |
Derek Hammer
xxx@xxx |
Jim, as has been mentioned several times below (and in the post
immediately before yours) this is the K. Cernis comet from
earlier today.
Derek |
Nov 23 2002 03:21:33 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
David Evans's comet in C2 now ,visble from 07:31 to 08:06,
Very Bright,nice comet!
XingMing Zhou |
Nov 23 2002 03:47:57 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Update
Re: my C3 comet find of yesterday. Nov 22 2002 12:39:26.
This medium bright comet has now entered the C2 field of view.
2002/11/23
Initial C2 position - (1024x1024 images, 0,0 Top_left)
07:31 436, 1017
- Dave |
Nov 23 2002 05:08:13 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Monitoring an interesting movement in real-time C3.
Lasco B/W images. 512x512. 0,0 Top-Left
2002/11/23
07:42 260, 364
08:42 257, 358
09:42 254, 353
- Dave |
Nov 23 2002 05:26:32 |
Raymund John Ang
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in LASCO C3 image.
Date: Nov. 23, 2002
Position: 1024x1024, (0,0) upper left
Time
0218 524,648
0242 522,644
0418 516,629
0518 512,619
Raymund |
Nov 23 2002 05:33:52 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Hi Raymund,
You have reported the same comet I found yesterday at
Nov 22 2002 12:39:26.
The comet has now entered the C2 field of view.
- Dave |
Nov 23 2002 05:42:41 |
Raymund John Ang
xxx@xxx |
Possible Comet in LASCO C3 images.
Date: Nov. 23, 2002
Position: 1024x1024, (0,0) upper left
Time
0218 524,648
0242 522,644
0418 516,629
0518 512,619
Raymund |
Nov 23 2002 06:02:49 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Raymund,
you a) don't have to repeat the same posting several times and
b) should check if the object you claim has not already been
reported! If you would have done this you would have seen that
this was already found yesterday by Dave Evans. Please try to
follow these guidelines in order to keep this board free from
multiple claims/posting.
Maik
|
Nov 23 2002 06:11:19 |
Raymund John Ang
xxx@xxx |
(More positions)
Date: Nov. 23, 2002
Positions: 1024x1024, (0,0) upper left
Time
0018 532,667
0042 530,663
0142 526,654
Date: Nov. 22, 2002 (1024x1024) (0,0) upper left
Time
2342 534,672
Raymund |
Nov 23 2002 07:02:58 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Dave,
I cannot see anything at the indicated positions
for the "interesting movement" (comet?).
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 23 2002 17:19:36 |
Derek Hammer
xxx@xxx |
This has been quite an impressive week for comets! By my count,
we've had 10 Kreutz comets visible over a span of 8 days.
Here are two recent confirmations...
SOHO# Reported By Date Camera
-----------------------------------------
552 K. Cernis 02/11/22 C2,C3
553 D. Evans 02/11/22-23 C2,C3
All claims have been checked.
Derek |
Nov 23 2002 17:56:36 |
michael boschat
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C3 @ 20021123_2018 UT
Here are the (approximate) XY coordinates of
the object and an image of the area.
****** NOTE ******
x-coordinates are probably correct,
but y-coordinates may be off by
several pixels.
0,477 in lower left corner
LASCO C3 IMAGES
Date & UT Size X and Y
of Images used Coordinates
--------------------------------------------
20021123_2018.gif 512 x 512 300, 305
20021123_2042.gif 512 x 512 298, 303
20021123_2118.gif 512 x 512 294, 300
20021123_2142.gif 512 x 512 292, 299
----------------
Michael Boschat
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Nov 24 2002 03:48:21 |
Gregg Gallina
xxx@xxx |
Possible faint comet in C3... traced back to 21:18Z
Here are locations with 0,0 being lower left in 1024x1024 image.
x, y UTC
547, 332 21:18
545, 335 21:42
542, 338 22:18
539, 343 23:18
537, 346 23:42
The last two images are most clear, I was hoping
for a few more images before I posted, but to no avail.
So here is my best guess.
Best regards,
Gregg Gallina
|
Nov 24 2002 13:58:52 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in real-time C3
Lasco B/W images. 512x512. 0,0 Top-left.
2002/11/24
18:42 257, 373
- Dave |
Nov 24 2002 14:12:46 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Dave,
definitely not. Nothing visible moving in 18:18
and 18:42. Have you seen it in 18:18? If so please
note it, if not: do not report on a single image (see
yesterday and many times before).
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 25 2002 08:24:18 |
Xavier Leprette
xxx@xxx |
A possible comet in a real-time C2 BW images now.
The object is starting on 2002/11/25 at 12:06
Perhaps two fragments
Rough positions: (0,0) upper left, 512x512 images
col,row
12:06 183,507 and 184,505
12:30
I'm waiting other images to confirm the object.
Xavier Leprette |
Nov 25 2002 08:30:10 |
michael boschat
xxx@xxx |
Disregard my post of Nov 23 2002 17:56:36
nothing else seen.
Also, note that M4 - gloublar cluster in Scorpius is
now in the left part of the C3 field. It is not a comet.
Mike B |
Nov 25 2002 08:41:44 |
Xavier Leprette
xxx@xxx |
Disregard my last report, noisy or ray cosmic. Sorry
Xavier |
Nov 25 2002 09:03:38 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in c3
position 1024x1024 0,0 top-left
20021115
0842 506,692
0918 502,690
0942 499,688
1020 495,686
I am waiting other images to confirm.
Regards,
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 25 2002 09:24:18 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
No consider my last report.
Regards,
Toni |
Nov 25 2002 10:34:58 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
Possible Kreutz group comet in real-time C2 images.
It's faint.
0,0 in upper left corner
Images Size X, Y
20021125_0131_c2.gif 512 x 512
20021125_0154_c2.gif 512 x 512 210, 503
20021125_0206_c2.gif 512 x 512 208, 498
20021125_0154_c2.gif 512 x 512 205, 488
Regards, XingMing Zhou |
Nov 25 2002 10:40:53 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
Update
Possible Kreutz group comet in real-time C2 images.
It's faint,with a tail.
0,0 in upper left corner
Images Size X, Y
20021125_0154_c2.gif 512 x 512 210, 503
20021125_0206_c2.gif 512 x 512 208, 498
20021125_0230_c2.gif 512 x 512 205, 488
20021125_0254_c2.gif 512 x 512 202, 478
20021125_0306_c2.gif 512 x 512 201, 473
Regards, XingMing Zhou
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Nov 25 2002 10:50:49 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Xingming's sungrazer. Congrats!
Regards,
Sebastian |
Nov 25 2002 11:02:13 |
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Nov 25 2002 11:06:23 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C2
1024*1024 20021125
(0,0 top-left)
date x,y
1331 902,985
1354 885,952
1406 875,928
aspect other images for confirmation.
Regards,
Ciro
|
Nov 25 2002 11:23:35 |
Xavier Leprette
xxx@xxx |
A possible sungrazer comet in a real-time C2 images now.
The object is faint, and it is visible in 4 images
on 2002/11/24 from 09:30 to 10:56
Origin : top-left corner of 1024x1024 frames
col, row
09:30 437,1013
Xavier Leprette
|
Nov 25 2002 11:26:56 |
Xavier Leprette
xxx@xxx |
The object is faint, and it is visible in 4 images
on 2002/11/24 from 09:30 to 10:56
UPDATE :
Origin : top-left corner of 1024x1024 frames
col, row
09:30 437,1013
09:54 430,992
10:34 420,959
10:56 414,941
Xavier Leprette |
Nov 25 2002 12:48:10 |
Mark Ledingham
mark-xxx@xxx |
Monitoring possible Kreutz object in real-time C2 images.
1024x1024 images; 0,0 in top left. More positions will follow
as these are made available.
Date Time x y
2002/11/25 13:54 C2 (406, 1015)
2002/11/25 16:50 C2 (365, 968)
2002/11/25 14:30 C2 (349, 938)
- Mark Ledingham
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Nov 25 2002 12:50:14 |
Mark Ledingham
mark-xxx@xxx |
Sorry, the time should read 13:54, 14:06 and 14:30
in my last report.
- Mark Ledingham |
Nov 25 2002 12:53:01 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
- Confirmation of Xavier's Kreutz comet. Congrats!
- Mark, check your pixel/time and you will see
that this is only an alignment of cosmic rays
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 25 2002 14:16:01 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 24 (CONFIRMATION) -- Was just about to post this as
being missed due to weekend frame delays, but I see that Xavier
was on the ball and found it. Good job! The comet is actually
visible in at least 6 frames (0,0 in upper left):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-24 09:30 437 1012
09:54 430 992
10:34 419 958
10:56 414 938
11:06 411 929
11:30 405 909
--Rob |
Nov 25 2002 14:53:08 |
Rob Matson
xxx@xxx |
2002 Nov 24 -- I believe I've found a non-group comet in real-time
C2 frames. It's a fast mover and unfortunately is only visible in
4 frames, maybe 5. 1024x1024 approximate coordinates (0,0 in upper
left):
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM Col Row
---------- ----- --- ----
2002-11-24 10:56 1017 594
11:06 1002 599
11:30 968 613
11:54 931 625
12:06 914 629 ?
--Rob |
Nov 25 2002 15:57:16 |
Rainer Kracht
xxx@xxx |
Rob's C2 non-group comet:
The first three images look very well,
if Derek accepts the fourth it will be
officially confirmed.
The apparent track is close to that of C/2002 Q9
and even the acceleration seems right.
Rainer |
Nov 26 2002 05:18:10 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C2
1024*1024
Date 20021126
time x,y
0754 973,949
0806 964,940
0830 961,940
0854 956,933
Regards,
Ciro
|
Nov 26 2002 06:11:50 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Ciro,
without looking at the images I can say that this is noise. Why?
Just look at your coordinates and the times. This does not move
uniformly. Please, before posting a claim, check for consistent
speed in x and y!
Maik
|
Nov 26 2002 10:39:04 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
Date: Nov 26, 2002
Brief description:
The Object...? The Possible comet in C3...
The object mark in three positions on picture from 11/26/2002 in interval 08:18 - 08:42 - 09:18.
0,0 in upper left corner
1024x1024
Time (x,y)
08:18 476,29
08:42 482,33
09:18 489,39
Regards,
Sergey Shurpakov
|
Nov 26 2002 13:56:41 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
My apologies. We ask my message to consider void...
Regards,Sergey |
Nov 26 2002 14:58:12 |
Sergey Shurpakov Sergey Shurpakov
xxx@xxx |
26 Nov 2002
Possible comet in image C3...
Brief description:
The Object is sailled weakens in briliance.... The Mark it is enough
on 4 pictures well...
0,0 in upper left corner
1024x1024
Time (x,y)
15:18 591,799
16:18 590,796
16:42 589,797
17:18 588,800
Regards,Sergey Shurpakov
|
Nov 26 2002 15:04:13 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Sergey,
your report is definitely no comet. The positions
you gave change direction in an erroneous way.
Please start comethunting with trying to locate
known comets to see _where_ comets can be seen,
_how_ they move and how the look like. You may
also use the tutorial that is offered.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 26 2002 20:26:58 |
Derek Hammer
xxx@xxx |
Hello, I have two more confirmations and a pending claim...
SOHO# Reported By Date Camera
------------------------------------------
552 X.-M. Zhou 02/11/25 C2
553 X. Leprette 02/11/24 C2
554? R. Matson 02/11/24 C2 [PENDING]
Gregg, your claim was reasonable...meaning I did see the object
you were referring to. However, after taking my own positions, the
change in x is suspect, especially at the 23:18 image. Also, the
object you are referring to is very dim and, if you take another
look in its vicinity, you'll see there always exists at least 2-4
other blobs or smudges that look identical to it. This is
an immediate signal that you're looking too far into the noise.
Also, your y-coordinate seems to be consistently short by 4-5
pixels. Please fix this for future reports as it is very difficult
to ascertain the exact object you're claiming especially if it's
very faint. Overall, your claim is just background noise.
And for everyone, once again, do not post with <4 positions if the object
is not obvious. Please stop. Sergey and Ciro, please do not make
<4 posts until you are more comfortable with comet appearances in
LASCO. Dave, it's absurd to think that you could, with 1 or 2
images!!, possibly identify a comet in C3!!, with the black and
whites!!, with 1/2 resolution!!. Nobody is that good. A successful
claim would be nothing more than a guess. Guesses are not acceptable
with <4 image posts.
Derek
|
Nov 26 2002 20:37:51 |
Derek Hammer
xxx@xxx |
Sorry, the SOHO#'s should read...
SOHO# Reported By Date Camera
-------------------------------------------
554 X.-M. Zhou 02/11/25 C2
555 X. Leprette 02/11/24 C2
556? R. Matson 02/11/24 C2 [PENDING] |
Nov 27 2002 09:22:14 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
Possible Kreutz group comet in real-time C2 images.
It's faint,with a tail.
0,0 in upper left corner
Images Size X, Y
20021127_1031_c2.gif 512 x 512 180, 504
20021127_1054_c2.gif 512 x 512 173, 489
Regards, XingMing Zhou
|
Nov 27 2002 09:27:00 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Xingming,
it looks like 2 cosmic ray streaks in 1024. Note
that the images are very noisy at this time.
Regards, Sebastian |
Nov 27 2002 10:01:50 |
John Sachs
xxx@xxx |
Possible Sungrazer in C3 images
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 1024x1024
Date:11272002
Time 00:42 (x,y)
20021127 0942 C3 571 835
More positions soon.
John |
Nov 27 2002 10:07:30 |
John Sachs
xxx@xxx |
Possible Sungrazer in C3 images
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 1024x1024
Date:11272002
Time 00:42 (x,y)
20021127 0942 C3 570 832
More positions soon.
John |
Nov 27 2002 10:10:03 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
New sungrazer in LASCO C3 images
Date: Nov 27, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 1024 x 1024
Time (x,y)
09:42 576,848
10:42 573,838
11:18 571,834
11:42 569,831
This is somewhat off from John's position
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 27 2002 10:11:22 |
John Sachs
xxx@xxx |
Possible Sungrazer in C3 images
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 1024x1024
Date:11272002
Time 00:42 (x,y)
20021127 1142 C3 570 832
More positions soon.
Sorry My post were not correct below
This one is
John |
Nov 27 2002 10:19:56 |
Scamato Toni
xxx@xxx |
New comet in C3 starting at positiobn
20021127
1042 573,840
other posistoon at next post
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 27 2002 10:20:13 |
John Sachs
xxx@xxx |
Possible New Kreutz comet C3
0,0 Top Left x and y Coordinates
C3 1024x1024 Images x and y Coordinates
20021127 1142 C3 569 832
20021127 1118 C3 571 834
20021127 1042 C3 573 839
20021127 1020 C3 575 843
My time was off on my first reports.
Sorry for so many posts :)
Thanks
John |
Nov 27 2002 10:21:59 |
Scarmato Toni
xxx@xxx |
Update
20021127
1042 573,840
1118 571,834
1142 570,831
1024x1024 0,0 top-left
Bright comet
Toni Scarmato |
Nov 28 2002 08:47:23 |
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Nov 28 2002 19:50:50 |
XingMing Zhou
xxx@xxx |
Possible Kreutz group comet in real-time C2 images.
It's faint,with a short tail.
0,0 in upper left corner
Images Size X, Y
20021128_0054_c2.gif 512 x 512 170, 449
20021128_0131_c2.gif 512 x 512 168, 433
20021128_0154_c2.gif 512 x 512 167, 424
20021128_0206_c2.gif 512 x 512 167, 419
20021128_0230_c2.gif 512 x 512 165, 408
Regards, XingMing Zhou |
Nov 29 2002 03:25:54 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of XimgMing's Kreutz comet. Should be visible as a
nice object in C2 when the delayed images are available.
Maik |
Nov 29 2002 06:23:18 |
Raymund John Ang
xxx@xxx |
LASCO C3
Nov. 28, 2002
1024x1024, (0,0) upper-left
0942 499,643
1020 497,637
1042 496,633
1118 495,627
(Not sure if this has already been discovered.)
Raymund |
Nov 29 2002 06:43:19 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Raymund,
it has been discovered by John Sachs and Sebastian Hoenig on Nov. 27.
It is easy to see this by looking at their reports.
Maik |
Nov 29 2002 08:02:41 |
fusco ciro
xxx@xxx |
Possible comet in C2 1024*1024
DATE 20021128
(0,0 top-left)
time x,y
1054 805,1010
1106 804,1007
...
...
aspect other images for the confirmation.
Regards,
Ciro |
Nov 29 2002 08:14:52 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Ciro,
why do you post this? This is noise. Don't you have read Derek's
advise?
"Sergey and Ciro, please do not make <4 posts until you are more
comfortable with comet appearances in LASCO."
Maik
|
Nov 29 2002 10:33:02 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
New sungrazer in LASCO C2 images
Date: Nov 28, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 512 x 512
Time (x,y)
16:54 180,510
17:06 179,504
17:30
More positions soon.
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 29 2002 10:35:51 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
New sungrazer in LASCO C2 images
(update of previous report)
Date: Nov 28, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 512 x 512
Time (x,y)
16:54 180,510
17:06 179,504
17:30 177,494
18:06 174,489
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 29 2002 11:17:18 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Another new sungrazer in LASCO C2 images
Date: Nov 29, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 512 x 512
Time (x,y)
04:54 90,502
05:06 90,495
05:30 90,485
More positions soon.
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 29 2002 11:19:08 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Another new sungrazer in LASCO C2 images
Date: Nov 29, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 512 x 512
Time (x,y)
04:54 90,502
05:06 90,495
05:30 90,485
05:54 90,474
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 29 2002 11:20:04 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of Sebastian's 2 Kreutz comets! Congrats!
Maik
|
Nov 29 2002 11:23:24 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
A 3rd new sungrazer in LASCO C2 images
Date: Nov 29, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 512 x 512
Time (x,y)
06:54 192,508
07:31 188,492
07:54 184,484
More positions soon.
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 29 2002 11:24:18 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
A 3rd new sungrazer in LASCO C2 images
update
Date: Nov 29, 2002
Positions: (0,0) upper left, 512 x 512
Time (x,y)
06:54 192,508
07:31 188,492
07:54 185,484
08:06 184,478
Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 29 2002 11:56:39 |
Maik Meyer
xxx@xxx |
Confirmation of the 3rd Kreutz comet found by Sebastian! Very
impressive.
Maik |
Nov 29 2002 12:05:02 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Three sungrazers found in images of Nov 28 - 29
(Update and overview of all the reports)
Maik, thanks for the confirmations. Here is an overview
of all the reports so you can check if your suspect object has
already been reported.
All positions: (0,0) upper left, 512 x 512
Nov 28:
Time (x,y)
16:54 180,509
17:06 179,504
17:30 177,494
18:06 174,479
18:54 170,458
Nov 29:
Time (x,y) Time (x,y)
04:54 90,502 06:54 192,508
05:06 90,496 07:31 188,492
05:30 90,485 07:54 186,483
05:54 90,474 08:06 185,478
08:30 183,468
Regards, Sebastian Hönig |
Nov 29 2002 12:38:47 |
Xavier Leprette
xxx@xxx |
A possible sungrazer comet in a real-time C2 images now.
The object is faint, and it is visible in 6 images
on 2002/11/29 from 01:54 to 03:30
Origin : top-left corner of 1024x1024 frames
col, row
01:54 255,988
02:06 252,980
Xavier Leprette
|
Nov 29 2002 12:47:20 |
Xavier Leprette
xxx@xxx |
A possible sungrazer comet in a real-time C2 images now.
UPDATE :
The object is faint, and it is visible in 6 images
on 2002/11/29 from 01:54 to 03:30
Origin : top-left corner of 1024x1024 frames
col, row
01:54 255,988
02:06 252,980
02:30 250,962
02:54 248,942
03:06 246,934
03:30 244,915
Xavier Leprette |
Nov 29 2002 12:52:40 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Possible faint C2 object following a Kreutz path
in recent images.
1024x1024 o,o Top-Left
2002/11/29
01:54 253, 987
02:06 252, 978
02:30 250, 960
02:54 247, 941
03:06 246, 933
03:30 244, 914
- Dave |
Nov 29 2002 12:56:45 |
David Evans
xxx@xxx |
Congrats Xavier!
- Dave |
Nov 29 2002 13:41:05 |
Xavier Leprette
xxx@xxx |
Well done Sebastian for your three daily comets.
Thanks Dave.
Xavier |
Nov 30 2002 13:40:35 |
Paolo Laquale
xxx@xxx |
Possible Kreutz comet in LASCO C2 image now (B/W image)
512X512 0,0 upper left
x,y
02/11/30_18:06 216,407
The comet is very evident with long tail and follow the
Kreutz path for this time of the year.
This is the reason for post only one image.
I attend other images for confirmaton.
Regards Paolo Laquale |
Nov 30 2002 13:46:30 |
Paolo Laquale
xxx@xxx |
Sorry, not consider my last post !
Noise only noise!
Regards Paolo Laquale |
Nov 30 2002 14:19:52 |
Robert Otto
xxx@xxx |
Possible object in C2 Images
11/30/2002 C2 1024x1024 (0,0 Bottom Left)
X Y Date Time
603 130 20021130 0606
609 145 20021130 0630
611 159 20021130 0654
628 187 20021130 0731
-Robert Otto
|
Nov 30 2002 14:45:36 |
Sebastian Hönig
xxx@xxx |
Robert,
your object can be identified as a random alignment of cosmic ray
hits. Reasons:
(1) It changes shape and brightness unphysically (i.e. unpredictable)
(2) It is not visible in previous or following images although
it should with that brightness characteristics
(3) The x-movement doesn't correspond to the time steps
Another hint is that it is not on the track of one of the known
groups. For beginners it is best to first search only for Kreutz
comets (see http://www.ph.u-net.com/comets/c2paths.htm)
Regards, Sebastian |